CVE-2024-43499
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
Attack profile
How easy it is to exploit
- Attack vector
- Network
- Complexity
- Low
- Privileges needed
- None
- User interaction
- None
What an attacker can affect
- Confidentiality
- None
- Integrity
- None
- Availability
- High
Exploit likelihood
What each source reports
CVE List Score used
7.5
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
CVE-2024-43499- CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H/E:U/RL:O/RC:C - CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H - Weakness
- CWE-409, CWE-606
- Updated
- 2026-11-02
EUVDEUVD-2024-3204
7.5
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
EUVD-2024-3204- CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H/E:U/RL:O/RC:C - Updated
- 2026-11-02
GitHub AdvisoriesGHSA-6x36-qxmj-rv4p
8.7
.NET Denial of Service Vulnerability
Microsoft Security Advisory CVE-2024-43499 | .NET Denial of Service Vulnerability
<a name="executive-summary"></a>Executive summary
Microsoft is releasing this security advisory to provide information about a vulnerability in .NET 9.0. This advisory also provides guidance on what developers can do to update their applications to remove this vulnerability.
The NrbfDecoder component in .NET 9 contains a denial of service vulnerability due to incorrect input validation.
Announcement
Announcement for this issue can be found at https://github.com/dotnet/announcements/issues/333
<a name="mitigation-factors"></a>Mitigation factors
Applications that do not use the NrbfDecoder component are not affected by this vulnerability. By default, .NET console apps and web apps do not reference this component.
<a name="affected-software"></a>Affected software
- Any .NET 9.0 application running on .NET 9.0.0.RC.2 or earlier.
<a name="affected-packages"></a>Affected Packages
The vulnerability affects any Microsoft .NET Core project if it uses any of affected packages versions listed below
<a name=".NET 9"></a>.NET 9
Package name | Affected version | Patched version ------------ | ---------------- | ------------------------- System.Formats.Nrbf | <9.0.0 | 9.0.0
Advisory FAQ
<a name="how-affected"></a>How do I know if I am affected?
If you have a runtime or SDK with a version listed, or an affected package listed in affected software or affected packages, you're exposed to the vulnerability.
<a name="how-fix"></a>How do I fix the issue?
- To fix the issue please install the latest version of .NET 9.0 . If you have installed one or more .NET SDKs through Visual Studio, Visual Studio will prompt you to update Visual Studio, which will also update your .NET SDKs.
- If your application references the vulnerable package, update the package reference to the patched version.
Note: You may need to take both actions. Upgrading to 9.0 GA is not by itself sufficient to resolve the vulnerability, since you could still be pulling in the vulnerable package by reference.
- If you have .NET 8.0 or greater installed, you can list the versions you have installed by running the
dotnet --infocommand. You will see output like the following;
.NET Core SDK (reflecting any global.json):
Version: 8.0.200
Commit: 8473146e7d
Runtime Environment:
OS Name: Windows
OS Version: 10.0.18363
OS Platform: Windows
RID: win10-x64
Base Path: C:\Program Files\dotnet\sdk\6.0.300\
Host (useful for support):
Version: 8.0.3
Commit: 8473146e7d
.NET Core SDKs installed:
8.0.200 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\sdk]
.NET Core runtimes installed:
Microsoft.NetCore.App 8.0.3 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.NetCore.App]
Microsoft.AspNetCore.App 8.0.3 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.AspNetCore.App]
Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App 8.0.3 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App]
To install additional .NET Core runtimes or SDKs:
https://aka.ms/dotnet-download
- If you're using .NET 9.0, you should download and install .NET 9.0 Runtime or .NET 9.0.100 SDK (for Visual Studio 2022 v17.12 latest Preview) from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-core/9.0.
Once you have installed the updated runtime or SDK, restart your apps for the update to take effect.
Additionally, if you've deployed self-contained applications targeting any of the impacted versions, these applications are also vulnerable and must be recompiled and redeployed.
Other Information
Reporting Security Issues
If you have found a potential security issue in .NET 9.0 or .NET 8.0, please email details to [email protected]. Reports may qualify for the Microsoft .NET Core & .NET 5…
- Record
GHSA-6x36-qxmj-rv4p- CVSS 4.0
- 8.7 High
CVSS:4.0/AV:N/AC:L/AT:N/PR:N/UI:N/VC:N/VI:N/VA:H/SC:N/SI:N/SA:N - CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H - Weakness
- CWE-409, CWE-606
- Updated
- 2026-11-02
NVD
7.5
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
CVE-2024-43499- CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H - Weakness
- CWE-409, CWE-606
- Updated
- 2026-11-02
OSV
7.5
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
CVE-2024-43499- CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H - Updated
- 2026-11-02
OSVGHSA-6x36-qxmj-rv4p
8.7
.NET Denial of Service Vulnerability
Microsoft Security Advisory CVE-2024-43499 | .NET Denial of Service Vulnerability
<a name="executive-summary"></a>Executive summary
Microsoft is releasing this security advisory to provide information about a vulnerability in .NET 9.0. This advisory also provides guidance on what developers can do to update their applications to remove this vulnerability.
The NrbfDecoder component in .NET 9 contains a denial of service vulnerability due to incorrect input validation.
Announcement
Announcement for this issue can be found at https://github.com/dotnet/announcements/issues/333
<a name="mitigation-factors"></a>Mitigation factors
Applications that do not use the NrbfDecoder component are not affected by this vulnerability. By default, .NET console apps and web apps do not reference this component.
<a name="affected-software"></a>Affected software
- Any .NET 9.0 application running on .NET 9.0.0.RC.2 or earlier.
<a name="affected-packages"></a>Affected Packages
The vulnerability affects any Microsoft .NET Core project if it uses any of affected packages versions listed below
<a name=".NET 9"></a>.NET 9
Package name | Affected version | Patched version ------------ | ---------------- | ------------------------- System.Formats.Nrbf | <9.0.0 | 9.0.0
Advisory FAQ
<a name="how-affected"></a>How do I know if I am affected?
If you have a runtime or SDK with a version listed, or an affected package listed in affected software or affected packages, you're exposed to the vulnerability.
<a name="how-fix"></a>How do I fix the issue?
- To fix the issue please install the latest version of .NET 9.0 . If you have installed one or more .NET SDKs through Visual Studio, Visual Studio will prompt you to update Visual Studio, which will also update your .NET SDKs.
- If your application references the vulnerable package, update the package reference to the patched version.
Note: You may need to take both actions. Upgrading to 9.0 GA is not by itself sufficient to resolve the vulnerability, since you could still be pulling in the vulnerable package by reference.
- If you have .NET 8.0 or greater installed, you can list the versions you have installed by running the
dotnet --infocommand. You will see output like the following;
.NET Core SDK (reflecting any global.json):
Version: 8.0.200
Commit: 8473146e7d
Runtime Environment:
OS Name: Windows
OS Version: 10.0.18363
OS Platform: Windows
RID: win10-x64
Base Path: C:\Program Files\dotnet\sdk\6.0.300\
Host (useful for support):
Version: 8.0.3
Commit: 8473146e7d
.NET Core SDKs installed:
8.0.200 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\sdk]
.NET Core runtimes installed:
Microsoft.NetCore.App 8.0.3 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.NetCore.App]
Microsoft.AspNetCore.App 8.0.3 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.AspNetCore.App]
Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App 8.0.3 [C:\Program Files\dotnet\shared\Microsoft.WindowsDesktop.App]
To install additional .NET Core runtimes or SDKs:
https://aka.ms/dotnet-download
- If you're using .NET 9.0, you should download and install .NET 9.0 Runtime or .NET 9.0.100 SDK (for Visual Studio 2022 v17.12 latest Preview) from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-core/9.0.
Once you have installed the updated runtime or SDK, restart your apps for the update to take effect.
Additionally, if you've deployed self-contained applications targeting any of the impacted versions, these applications are also vulnerable and must be recompiled and redeployed.
Other Information
Reporting Security Issues
If you have found a potential security issue in .NET 9.0 or .NET 8.0, please email details to [email protected]. Reports may qualify for the Microsoft .NET Core & .NET 5…
- Record
GHSA-6x36-qxmj-rv4p- CVSS 4.0
- 8.7 High
CVSS:4.0/AV:N/AC:L/AT:N/PR:N/UI:N/VC:N/VI:N/VA:H/SC:N/SI:N/SA:N - CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H - Weakness
- CWE-409, CWE-606
- Updated
- 2026-11-02
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OSVRHSA-2024:9543
8.8
Red Hat Security Advisory: .NET 9.0 security update
- Record
RHSA-2024:9543- CVSS 3.1
- 8.8 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:R/S:U/C:H/I:H/A:H - Updated
- 2026-11-02
OSVUBUNTU-CVE-2024-43499
7.5
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
UBUNTU-CVE-2024-43499- CVSS 3.1
- 7.5 High
CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:N/A:H - Updated
- 2026-11-02
OSVALSA-2024:9543 No score
Important: .NET 9.0 security update
.NET is a managed-software framework. It implements a subset of the .NET framework APIs and several new APIs, and it includes a CLR implementation.
New versions of .NET that address a security vulnerability are now available. The updated versions are .NET SDK 9.0.100 and .NET Runtime 9.0.1.0.
Security Fix(es):
- dotnet: Type confusion vulnerability leads to AV in .NET Core NrbfDecoder component (CVE-2024-43498)
- dotnet: .NET Core - DoS - (unbounded work factor) in NrbfDecoder component (CVE-2024-43499)
For more details about the security issue(s), including the impact, a CVSS score, acknowledgments, and other related information, refer to the CVE page(s) listed in the References section.Security Fix(es):
- dotnet: Type confusion vulnerability leads to AV in .NET Core NrbfDecoder component (CVE-2024-43498)
- dotnet: .NET Core - DoS - (unbounded work factor) in NrbfDecoder component (CVE-2024-43499)
For more details about the security issue(s), including the impact, a CVSS score, acknowledgments, and other related information, refer to the CVE page(s) listed in the References section.
- Record
ALSA-2024:9543- Updated
- 2026-11-02
OSVBIT-dotnet-2024-43499 No score
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
BIT-dotnet-2024-43499- Updated
- 2026-11-02
OSVBIT-dotnet-sdk-2024-43499 No score
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
.NET and Visual Studio Denial of Service Vulnerability
- Record
BIT-dotnet-sdk-2024-43499- Updated
- 2026-11-02
Affected products
Affected packages
| Package | Affected | Fixed |
|---|---|---|
System.Formats.NrbfNuGet |
before 9.0.0 | 9.0.0 |
aspnetcore-runtime-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
aspnetcore-runtime-dbg-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
aspnetcore-targeting-pack-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-apphost-pack-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-hostAlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-hostfxr-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-runtime-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-runtime-dbg-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
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| Package | Affected | Fixed |
|---|---|---|
dotnet-sdk-9.0-source-built-artifactsAlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-aot-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-dbg-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-targeting-pack-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-templates-9.0AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
netstandard-targeting-pack-2.1AlmaLinux:9 From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnetBitnami |
9.0.0 up to 9.0.1 | 9.0.1 |
dotnet-sdkBitnami |
9.0.0 up to 9.0.1 | 9.0.1 |
aspnetcore-runtime-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
aspnetcore-runtime-dbg-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
aspnetcore-targeting-pack-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-apphost-pack-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-apphost-pack-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-hostRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-host-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-hostfxr-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-hostfxr-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-runtime-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-runtime-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-runtime-dbg-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-aot-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-aot-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-dbg-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-targeting-pack-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-templates-9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet9.0Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet9.0-debugsourceRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
netstandard-targeting-pack-2.1Red Hat:enterprise_linux:9::appstream From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-apphost-pack-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-host-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-hostfxr-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-runtime-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.0-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-9.0-source-built-artifactsRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet-sdk-aot-9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet9.0-debuginfoRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet9.0-debugsourceRed Hat:enterprise_linux:9::crb From an advisory covering 2 CVEs |
before 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 | 0:9.0.100-1.el9_5 |
dotnet7Ubuntu:22.04:LTS |
All versions, plus listed versions 7.0.105-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.107-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.108-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.109-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.110-0ubuntu1~22.04.1 Show 9 moreShow less7.0.111-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.112-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.113-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.114-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.115-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.116-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.117-0ubuntu1~22.04.17.0.117-0ubuntu1~22.04.27.0.119-0ubuntu1~22.04.1 |
None known |
History
| Recorded | Changed | Sources |
|---|---|---|
| affected, facts | ||
| first indexed | CVE List, EUVD, GitHub Advisories, NVD, OSV |
Dates are when Every CVE recorded each change. Upstream dates may differ.
In short
CVE-2024-43499 is a high vulnerability (CVSS 7.5) in Microsoft .net, published November 12, 2024. No source lists public exploit code. EPSS puts the chance of exploitation in the next 30 days at 2.60%, the 85th percentile. Fixed in System.Formats.Nrbf 9.0.0.
References
msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/CVE-2024-43499
github.com/dotnet/runtime/security/advisories/GHSA-6x36-qxmj-rv4p
nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2024-43499
github.com/advisories/GHSA-6x36-qxmj-rv4p
access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2024:9543
access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2024-43498
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access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2024-43499
bugzilla.redhat.com/2323239
bugzilla.redhat.com/2323240
errata.almalinux.org/9/ALSA-2024-9543.html
github.com/dotnet/runtime
access.redhat.com/security/updates/classification
bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323239
bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323240
security.access.redhat.com/data/csaf/v2/advisories/2024/rhsa-2024_9543.json
cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2024-43498
nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2024-43498
github.com/dotnet/announcements/issues/334
cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2024-43499
github.com/dotnet/announcements/issues/333
ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2024-43499
ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-7105-1
Left out here: the rest of 2 source descriptions. The JSON record has them.